Enjoy this fantastic discussion between Danielle Allen and Ben Rhodes— former Deputy National Security Advisor for Obama, co-host of Pod Save the World, and author of the upcoming book All We Say. They had a fantastic in-depth conversation about Obama’s Iran Nuclear Deal and Trump’s chaotic Iran war— as well as some thoughtful sidebars on American identity, past and present.
Also, make sure to join us next Thursday at 7 EST for the Renovator Assembly, where we’ll have special guest Juli Lucky, who’s been doing important work to Renovate Democracy in Alaska. A link will go out to all paid subscribers— come contribute to our growing community of practice, and learn from other Democracy Renovators around the country!
